and what he just said was a lie. if you look at any road gang in america out there working on the roads, hispanics, if you go to the guys doing housing, roofing, guys doing lawns, guys doing craftsman work all over the buschs and the country, beverly hills, chevy chase, they're all spanish speaking and the idea they all came here for welfare checks. >> they come here to earn money. to send it back. to take that money and they're sending say half of it -- they live on what they have to, and they're sending it back to try to support family -- >> i don't think hispanics are big on government anyway. i think they're trying to get away from lousy governments most of them. >> every immigrant, and i have studied this, and you have too, over 200 years in this country, it's been the same thing. during garfield's election, i love to bring this up, during james garfield's election, the state of california almost, you know, was teetering on the edge over the issue of illegal chinese immigration. we go through this as a society.